Cape Talk

David Alge. You may or may not remember, a few days ago, Lester speaking to David. David is a New Zealand rugby fan based in the UK, who came up with a Rayburn Shield. It's an unofficial championship trophy that goes to the current rugby champion based on a lineage tracing all the way back to the first ever international rugby game between Scotland and England in 1871. Except, Dave has arrived in South Africa without the shield. Dave, what happened? Good morning. Well, good morning. Thank you for having me. Well, British here.

I've had a few South African folks say to me they're really pleased it was the British that screwed this up and not the South Africans, they left it in London. So the mission is now on. They tell me it was on a plane last night to land this morning and they'll have it sent to me here in Pretoria North this morning. We've got it all our fingers crossed. We do indeed. For those who may have missed your conversation with Leicester earlier in the week, remind us what is so special about the Ray Band Shield? Well, probably the most special thing.

Right now, is that the spring box hold it? But it is essentially just a winner-stays on title, right? And it means that it travels around to any nation depending if you win. And so, now that the South African team have it, the next time they lose, they have to hand the shield over to that team. And that's good fun, right? Because you've got something on the line no matter what. And also, anybody. So, I've had Irish people, and we all know there's been a bit of a recent kind of rivalry going on there too. I've had Irish people say to me, they want South Africa to come out of this tour with.

The shield because they know that South Africa are coming to Dublin later this year. And they're like, we'll have that off you. Thank you. And they know that New Zealand's not coming to Dublin. So that, you know, it's that kind of thing where people are looking ahead, going, actually, you keep it until you get to me and then I'll steal it off you. Thank you. And there's that's fun. That's fun as we go forward. But it's also cool because we can look at the whole history of the game. You know, and I can look at, I know, 1937, the South African team won the shield and they kept it till 1953. Wow. And there's just these cool little bits.