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Or against senior officers, but was not given an opportunity to do so. On the 1st of October 1997, I made an appetizer to and gave evidence at the TRC. I said to the TRC that the state has inexplicably declined to pursue the generals and politicians despite their involvement, and that I was sickened by this choice. That was in 1997. It's now 30 years later.

How do you feel about that fact that the generals and the politicians were not pursued? I'll start with saying also that I testified against President P.W. Botha in George. However, how I feel about it today is only my point of view. I was the only connection between the generals and the politicians. The people lower down the ranks didn't have that information. I was the only one.

That could testify against many of the generals and then some of the politicians. And they had to break that connection. So my own experience, and as it went on in the years, is that there was a terrible, terrible negligence, criminal negligence, on the part of the prosecuting authorities. And secondly, that my court was.

Basically, a kangaroo court to keep me away from testifying. What was a kangaroo court? Well, where you set you up like in a case of bamboo, I was never involved, but I got 15 years for it. The man who shot him testified against me, and I wasn't even there. All right. So if we can then go on to page 2379, now, paragraph, in the middle of the page, it's headed the chain of command. Yes.

And what and you say there, paragraph 46. Perhaps you can, well, let me just deal with that. You've explained to the Commission that you would receive the instructions from the generals and then you would instruct the units beneath you to carry them out. Is that correct? Yes. So you were the link between the people who are making the decisions and the people who are implementing the decisions. Yes, the only person. Yes. And

You were able to give evidence about that. Yes. And paragraph 49, if you go to, it's page 2379, 2380, I beg your pardon, 2380. Yes, I have. Can you go to paragraph 49, 49? Yes. Could you read what you said in paragraph 49? The journals have not been prosecuted, despite Judge Willem from the money.

Having found at the conclusion of my criminal trial that there was more than enough evidence to charge General Engelbroth. Then, can you read out the next paragraph, paragraph 50? As a senior political office, I was not part of any function of my function to engage with them. That was principally the function of General Earth.