› They did not investigate him as part of what he reckons is a conspiracy to never ever go through all the information that he, Dukok, had, which would absolutely prove that top-level apartheid leaders knew and were making the orders to commit horrifying acts. And he literally said of F.W. de Klerk, the man who some credit with ending apartheid or being part of the end of apartheid, because he was the last apartheid leader and he negotiated with Mandela and
› CODESA and then New South Africa, and he became the deputy president and he got a Nobel Peace Prize with Mandela, which I think many people still think is scandalous and was just a political solution to a big problem, which was trying to give him an incentive to end apartheid. The direct quote from de Kok about a number of people who I'll talk about in a second, but particularly de Klerk was the politicians who knew were definitely P.W. Botha, Adriaan Vlok, who was Minister of Law and Order in the second half of the 1980s, Louis.
› Louis Lagrange, who was apartheid minister of law and order in the first half of the 80s. And then he says: at a later stage, I did receive information that de Klerk, President de Klerk, the one that urinated himself out of fear, gave the order for the killing of five children in Tata. I want to know why he was not prosecuted. He actually got a Nobel Peace Prize for killing children. I think it is disgusting. It, the Nobel Peace Prize, should be recalled.
› That's Eugene Deco's direct quotes. And that seems to be a reference to the fact, as Sinise Boscho reported in the Times, that there was an inquest, that the NPA has now opened an inquest into a 1993 killing of five children, including two 12-year-olds, who were shot dead in a South African defense force raid on an alleged ASAN People's Liberation Army base, APLA, at the Mpendulo residence in Imtata suburb of Northcrest. So Decoc is saying that De Clark, in 1993, October, gave that order.