Cape Talk, Tuesday evening

So that's a positive sign. At the moment, Atco itself is manufacturing about 150 products even and exporting to 10 countries. Obviously, Africa being a key recipient. And they've got about 160 compounds that they've developed in line with this. So another great story just in terms of industrialization, but in the pharma sector, which Africa significantly needs. M23, we know them, created on March the 23rd, their sort of rebel movement in the DRC. They seem to be, I mean,

Everyone presumes that what people are sort of fighting over in the DRC is gold and coal tan, can't have a cell phone without it. But instead, they're cashing in on Congo's beer. It's Congo's beer. And, you know, it's always, we know in war, there's always spoils. But in this case, Stephen, what has happened? The M23, obviously, which are backed by Rwanda, have frustrated the supply chain coming out of the DRC.

DRC Shasa is a brewery that can produce like 15 million bottles of beer per month, believe it or not, based on statistics. I think they're owned by Heineken. But to cut a long story short, Stephen, what they've done is they are promoting beer from Rwanda and they are frustrating any other supplier, especially from Burundi, especially the Goma area, to such an extent in terms of I think the price of beer, one of the brands is primers, as opposed to being $1.

It's gone beneflates to actually 25 US dollars per bottle. And this is because obviously there are about 700 roadblocks because of the M23 blockades, et cetera, et cetera. So they've increased, they've squeezed out the competitors and forced the local players coming from Rwanda. And Rwanda's brewery has increased by about 14,000% supply to DRC. So a funny story, but albeit it's got its negative dynamics as well. No, sure. And then wild pepper, it's actually quite highly priced.