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Bridget Masinga is streaming live now on Facebook, YouTube, and eggs at SFM Radio. All right, let's catch up. Day 185 at the Madlanga Commission. So much happened yesterday, and we were left at a cliffhanger. Smash Limota, how are you doing? Good afternoon to you, Bridget, and thank you so much for having me. Thanks for the time. All right, let's catch up because Vusimuzi Matlala's testimony.

Has finally concluded. And the last few days has touched on a lot of things, including relationships that he's had with various police officials, including the likes of Begik Dali. Yes. So I think, you know, his testimony stands out in a sense that, you know, the section 204, which he had allegedly divulged certain information that he did not want the commission to traverse, came to the light. And some of the figures or the well-known names emerged. It was a general

Shadrack Sibiya, as well as General Baby Breley. And ultimately, what he had said about General Baby Breley is that he seemingly also was light money, and there was a transaction of several transactions that he had given him. But ultimately, what he says is that the section 200 statement had exaggerated the amount that the investigators had alleged that he had given Brale. Initially, I think that amount was around 1 million rand. And ultimately, he conceded to the fact that I think.

He gave Bay Kele approximately half a million rand. And, you know, he said towards the end of his testimony about Kwele that it seems like the former police minister, you know, was a jukebox of some sort because it felt like he needed to put something in to get something out. And he saw, you know, it's time to say that it seems like Kwele was just taking money from him and not really delivering any of some of the promises that he had made him. So ultimately, again, I

I think General Bay is one such witness that a lot of us can expect to see. Hopefully, the Madlanga Commission will definitely call him back and so that he can answer to some of these allegations that have been made by Matlala. I think one of the big things also was that cliffhanger that we left things on yesterday. Because is it a brick of cocaine or is it not a brick of cocaine? I mean, it looks like it, right? And why I say that is because, if you remember, we also

There's quite extensive testimony when it came to cocaine. And what is distinctive about these breaks is that they are branded, you know, with various names. And that was, he even said the name. I just, you know, it clicks my mind, but he even said the name to say, yes, I can see it's brand new. So yes, it's branded prestige. And what we do know from the Madlanga Commission and the extensive sort of evidence we've had from various police officials is the fact that these cocaine breaks that come from wherever.