Cat Caught Out, Blames Drugs! Coalition Talks Get Ugly

We're going to tell you everything that he has been caught in, including just now as we started recording and we had to restart. But this is Kat Matlala in puppet form, made by the incredible fiber and textile artist Georgina Glass. She made it for us on commission. It is incredible. It's obviously Katu's a cat. He's got his glasses, but look at this. He's got his Burberry and chains from his iconic Jose Mampuru prison appearance, where he literally wore Burberry to his address in front of.

At our committee, and these are the chains also. Please go check out Georgina. Alice Glass is her handle on Instagram. She is so good at this stuff, and she's commissioning more for us because we want to memorialize this iconic moment in the history of South Africa with incredible puppet work. And according to Katmatlala, he is a puppet in the hands of some very abusive top leadership of the drug cartel and the police and everybody else. And it fits that we're talking about him in Burberry and chains today because it

Turns out he lied under oath at least once because he's contradicted what he answered to a question from Julius Malema when he was in front of Addock all those months ago. So I've perched Kathmatla on top of this academic owl who we've still not named, and he'll sit there safely for the rest of the show. Thank you so much to Georgina once again. James, it's been an extraordinary session because unbelievably, once the advocate, Vanenhofe, trying to protect Kathmatlala from speaking at any moment, had run out of road.