Power FM, Sunday evening

Certain boundaries, then you have people say, but you've changed, or but I'm like, no, I've got so much responsibility in my life that I don't have time. I'll give you an example. I have a friend whose daughter is a swimmer, and I always use this example to say, take the disability away because that already changes how you receive what I'm saying. If you had a child who was a gymnast or a star athlete, you would do everything to fund that. You would pour time into that. You would be a swim mom.

Sports mom, that's all you'd be doing. So, look at my journey as that. That is what I am. So, a lot of my journey revolves around you, children, yeah. But a lot of who I am also then needs to come out. So, um, kumuto, I like engaging with people, I love passing on information. This has just let me do that in a different way. Yeah, I think I had always been an activist, not necessarily political, but always been in the space of gender and whatever. But this really.

Woke me up to be like, there's a whole lot of spaces you don't see. A whole lot of, I also think it has also made me a bit more innovative to be like, how do you do this differently? Yeah, and cutting down to the simplicity of things, just to the basics. Let's have a conversation. Do you know what this condition is? Do you understand why Medina, as she gets into your taxi, she needs the music to go down? And let me tell you, I love South Africans. South African people are incredible because most people.

With a conversation, you can go incredibly far because they may understand. No drama, you just say to them, This is what it is. And they become curious. I was doing some things with some court officials, and you know, you'll do the talk, and this man will say, I'm like, no, no, no, they are very, very alive. Not autopsy, but as you give people examples, they then make the change and they are so proud.

Because remember, a lot of what happens with disability and when people are different is you're so busy changing this person to fit in, but we're not doing the work to say, hello, rest of the world, what are you catering for? Because we are your responsibility. I think if I have to close off one more with the foundation, I work specifically, I know people always ask me about government and I steer off it maybe because I'm an official. But I thought it was our opportunity also to engage with business because with my kids' condition,

If you are voda phone or whoever, if I have a child who uses a tablet to communicate, we buy three or four phones a year. I am your consumer. Stop looking at me to say when I talk about my work, you're like, you know, our CSI program. Yes, I like that. I like that. I will take it. But you know what else we have? How are you doing things for us? Because we are buying from you. If you are a property person, how are you selling a house to me? Do you understand, architect, that if I have a child who says,

Or if I, as an adult, am sensory, I have elderly parents, how is this place that you're giving me going to grow and accommodate? Yes. And when you do that, you see it actually fits in everything. You know, there is, it's bad to say there is money to be made, but we live in a world because of capitalism, you only look at productive things that you miss so many things. Everything that has been done for reasonable accommodation has benefited everybody. The doors that open automatically.