Cape Talk, Wednesday morning

The US regarding M23, regarding being on a watch list, bank accounts being frozen, etc. So that the tension. And so Rwanda, I think, is not surprised by this exclusion. And I think Rwanda has historically also just looked at other markets and diversifying because they got their big shock in 2018. And I think ever since then, they've sort of moved on from the U.S., Clarence. Yeah, of course. I don't think I.

Surprised that this was announced just before our elections as well. And I see some of the political parties have have come out guns blazing at the ANC for causing us to lose a goer. But we've been there before. We've been there even with Obama. And in Trump's kind of case, it appears extortionist is foreign policy more so than anything else. Yes, Clarence. And in fact, I spoke to some foreign policy experts.

Know just to gauge where the mindset, even in the US. And I mean, one said to me that you know there's a failure to understand Trump's coercive approach to diplomacy. China and Canada have understood and they've imposed their costs on the US, and it's hurting Trump and it's forced him to moderate with those countries. Look at, I mean, China-US relationship. Now, South Africa, we, for instance, have that leverage, but have been too soft in expressing it.

Ultimately, this diplomat said Trump is nothing but a bully. And the only thing bullies understand is when you hit them back hard and then they back off. And so, what we see Clarence, in particular, for Rwanda, Rwanda is going on business as usual because they know they have something that the U.S. wants. And so they're just going to sit back, eat their popcorn, and wait. And so, I think, you know, because we're on the eve of election and I think some politicians