Cape Talk, Tuesday afternoon

With permission from the court as a co-applicant. They are challenging the transparency and legality of the process following investigative reports linking a relative of Deputy President Paul Mashatile's wife to shares in Sezakaya. And those investigative reports were done by Ama Bungani, and much of the work was done by my next guest, Azara Karim, who is currently an investigative journalist with News24 and who wrote the story which appears on News24 about this issue. Azara Gadar.

Afternoon. Hi, John. Thanks for having me. For people who are panicking, oh, you know, I'm not going to be able to play Powerball tonight and lotter tomorrow, the setting aside of the decision doesn't mean that in practice. No, it has been suspended for a period of two consecutive six months. So they have six months to make a fresh decision and then another six months to conclude.

A new license agreement and make those transitional changes if Sizekaya is appointed again. And the court's thinking, as I understand it, which is not always correct, is that Parkstower introduced a new level of approval, a new body to approve. So there are statutory references to two bodies, both of which recommended an operator other than Size Kaya, and then this ministerial

Committee appointed by Parkstow, and there's no reference made to a ministerial committee in the legislation around the operating of the lotto. They then recommended Cesare Kaya, and Judge Norman Davis said, Nope, that we can't allow. Yes, exactly. Because, and let me just say, this court case was sparked by investigative journalism done by AMAB and News24.

That did link the deputy president's sister-in-law to a company called Bellamont Gaming, which is a shareholder of CZK and co-directed by CZEKA chairman Moses Tembe. And then News24 took that further and found many more connections between the Paul and Humile Mashatile Trust and shareholders of CZEKA.

But what is the main crux of this issue is that ministerial committee, which Judge Norman Davis said essentially ran a parallel process. That was a process that didn't advise the minister as it was meant to or use external experts to make recommendations, but actually ran a re-evaluation of the entire