Power FM, Saturday afternoon

Conversations with them because they say, no, I don't seem to be politically exposed, you know, because at my work, if I'm seen to be in a political party event, then it's going to be a problem. And then, of course, this middle class in Job is in gated states where you need a code to access and talk to them. There's a lot of depoliticization that is happening in our society, and I think we need to fight back on that depoliticization. But I think the other thing has been confronting what poverty means for people on a day-to-day basis. I mean, I remember.

Grenville, in one community next to Lindhurst, this young guy saying to me, Do you think I want to be drunk every day? I don't. I want a job. I want to earn something. I've got a wife. I've got children. But I'm frustrated. I've got no work. I've got no way of generating a livelihood. And I could feel his frustration, and he was beginning to cry. And this is the despair that people have to live through. Or you get a omunyubaba, you know, in Crosby.

The side of Slovo informal settlement that's near Crosby. He, first of all, he doesn't have running water in his house, doesn't have a flushing toilet, but there is a sewer pipeline that runs underneath his house. And then, so the pipe burst and was bringing sewage into his house in this informal settlement. And he had developed a chest infection and he had been staying with this sewage for about two to three months until he could make a plan, get money.

Redivert underneath this pipe. But then now, the sewage was now spilling over on the road. And the lady next door, because of this, was telling us that she can't even eat her food inside her house because she has so many flies and she asked us to come in. And we came in and we saw she has to cook and then she's got to go and eat at someone else's place. Those stories for me tell us the urgency with which we need to reform the agenda of local government. And then we got to.