702, Thursday morning

Johnny, let's start with you in Pretoria East. You want to talk about Gwede Mantashe? Good morning. Morning. I don't understand what Gwede Mantashe is talking about because the purpose and the main aim of this exercise is to win the race. It's not to contribute votes to other parties and say, no, it's democracy. No. You must acknowledge that we have lost, and the aim is to win and lead. Because you are assuming that your organization or your party is popular, more popular than other parties.

Losing and they are losing, and he must be worried. He mustn't just say, No, we are contributing to the democracy of this country. Other parties are eating out of him. Imagine if it was a bank account, and everybody goes there and have his finger into your account, and you say, No, I'm contributing to the criminal or to the other people unlawfully. No, let's wait for the final result and see what the overall message would be: that oh, we have made such a contribution, but they don't control. Does it seem like they regret it?

Doesn't seem like they're even regretting anything, Johnny. I mean, there's not even a South Africans, we've heard what you've said, you have shown us again that you're not happy, we will do better. There's nothing like that. Instead, he says, Well, the fact that we're declining is not because of our fault. He says it's the maturing democracy. Are you kidding me? I mean, that's really shocking. Johnny, that's my worry. Yeah, it's quite shocking. That's my worry because the arrogance, the level of arrogance there as well is something that the people have been.

Complaining about, and he's now confirming it, and that's why many people are turning their backs against him. That's the problem. Thank you for your call, Johnny in Pretoria East. OJ, you are calling us from Boxpeck. What are your thoughts? Yes, yes, I was also listening to Brad as well. Very disappointed in his take. He's campaigning after the fact. I mean, he's telling us about all this power, telling us that they've built clinics, they've built houses, the government did that other end.