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Once all the numbers are in and the 14-day period of putting coalitions together gets underway, yeah, it's going to be fascinating stuff. We appreciate your time. Always a pleasure, John. Right, 7:02 Drive, it's three minutes to five. Clement Manyathela, weekday mornings, nine to twelve. So you don't think that the decline in support is your own doing as the ANC? No, it's the majority of democracies. So you've not done anything that has gotten software. It is, it is actually, people are believing.

To exercise their choices, we gave them those choices. That's interesting. So, why then did you come up with a renewal agenda if you don't think your own doing is causing renewal because, in a competitive space, you do what you should do to compete, but you can't control breakaways. Look at all those breakaways, all of them are from the ANC. Yeah, it's like a Zionist church when many people say Amen. You form your own small and you are a founder, you are a nice bishop, you have only 20 members. It's okay.