Matlala exposed, while Malema guns for Zille

That on the day that Matlala's plea, he was supposed to go plead in court, the day the plea deal fell apart, he misled IDAC investigators, including Johnson, that he was going to accept the plea when he knew he wasn't. And as soon as he didn't accept that plea in court, Andrea Johnson was supposed to testify on that Monday at the Madlanga Commission, is the day we heard she had a panic attack and we learned that she went to the so-called Madlanga.

Ward in hospital that day as well. So, a funny link, and Kat Matlala is the one that's given us that link to say she was supposed to appear before the Madlanga Commission that day. When she found out that I'm dumping this plea deal, she felt like she couldn't testify. Why? Because she wanted to use Matla's Section 204 statement, allegedly, as the base of her testimony at the Commission. Then we move on to Big Cele, who's someone else that.

Kat Matlala has been giving testimony about today. Bheki Cele, as you know, is a former minister of police and the South African government, former general of the South African Police Service as well. And Matlala really, you know, giving clarity that: look, the first time I met Bheki Cele was at the funeral, was at MCB funeral. And you know, this IDEX situation with the section 204 statement in my plea deal really exaggerates the extent to which me and

You know, we have met in our relationship, basically trying to say it's not as exaggerated as it seems. He's definitely admitted to having made payments to Cele through a character called Mabonga. If you remember, Bheki Cele's testimony at the Aro Committee in Parliament, we got introduced to Mabonga, who set up this meeting for Matla and Bheki Cele to meet regarding Kat Matlala's issues with his Medicare tender that he had with the South African Police Service.

Purchase orders, et cetera. It's the same meeting where allegedly Cele told Matlala: look, Kwanazi is best placed to assist you because he's quite close with General Nkua, who works within the relevant department at SAPS. And another important thing, and we knew this before because we knew when the story of the Willies Bags came out that he made payments allegedly to Beguigrele. He speaks of a time where Mabonga was even present at his apartment when he handed over 200,000 to Bheki Cele.

And we know that he had actually requested way more than 200K, I think 500,000, and ended up only paying 200 because he said, I don't have the rest of the money. He even made a joke, Matlala, that is to say, Bheki Cele is like a jukebox. Anytime you want anything from him, you've got to put in money, which was kind of a funny analogy. And then there's this weird story about this endorsy person who Matlala was said to be communicating with, and Matlala thought it was Begikle.