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Lives, and this is not about comparing lives killed, but I'm trying to demonstrate that the disproportionate. So you can't compare the numbers of civilian deaths in Israel compared the numbers of civilian deaths in Gaza. And again, it's not about comparison, but you're talking over 60,000 people killed? That's a big number. There's two very major issues here that we have to discuss. First of all, when you talk about disproportionate

Response, it's not how you describe it. It's a legal math, it's a legal technical term that does not say, all right, if they killed a hundred people, they are allowed to kill a hundred people on the other side. That is not how disproportionate is being considered. When you consider an attack to be proportionate or disproportionate, you need to take into account what military value this attack will have and what will be.

The consequence on the human lives of each specific attack. So that is one thing that is important to clarify. And if you talk to legal experts, and I'm far from a legal expert, they will explain it much better. And now to your second point, which is extremely important. You talk about 60,000 people as if you are talking about 60,000 women, children, and innocent people. But you are avoiding the very simple fact that around

30,000 of that number are Hamas terrorists. Where are you taking into account these people? Do you completely ignore the fact that there was a war? You look at that and you say 60,000 civilians, as if zero combatants have been killed. How can you say 60,000 people like that? Well, I can break down the number for you if you want. It's very simple when you say over 60,000 because, in fact, the numbers now, when I check,

We're probably sitting at about who are providing these numbers. So your government is providing your own Israeli numbers, right? Well, yes. So Hamas government is also providing their own numbers. So if you don't want to believe Hamas' numbers, then don't ask us to believe Israeli numbers because then why should we? So you're comparing Hamas a terrorist organization into Israel, which is a democratically elected government. That is what you're telling me. For you, it's the same thing.

I'm confused. Same as being from two, because even in Gaza, actually, the people in Gaza voted for whoever they voted for, whether you agree with that government or not, that's a separate conversation, but that's who they voted for to be in charge. What I'm saying is, we kind of double standards here. You can't tell us to believe your numbers, but for some reason, don't believe Gaza's numbers. The United Nations even used the numbers that they have collated. So if you're saying 35,000 people are then terrorists, then how do you account for the other, let's say, 35 or the other over?