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news on SAFM. Facts and figures you can count on. Well, all the numbers with Marquee Marcia from Macqueew Fund Managers. You've got news about more of Africa and more. Yes, that's the owners thereof, including the owned likes of Lenwood Bridge. Ash of the
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think they are starting to drop their fees somewhat. But I think we should be asking real questions of fund managers if they're not doing the job according to what's on the box. How are you delivering relative to what we've all agreed? And maybe there's a
news on SAFM. Facts and figures you can count on. Well, all the numbers with Marquee Marcia from Macqueew Fund Managers. You've got news about more of Africa and more. Yes, that's the owners thereof, including the owned likes of Lenwood Bridge. Ash of the
Fund managers to invest our money. So, I mean, I think most of us just presume that that's what you have to do it. But actually, if you're looking at the best outcomes, why is this such an issue? I think you're right that it's something that just happens in
Can be prohibitive if individuals want to invest directly. So, frontier funds such as the Alan Gray Frontier Fund are a very cost-effective way from that perspective. And you also have professional managers that are looking at the fund on an ongoing basis and
Not just portfolio managers. So managing the risk, you know, is part and parcel of the job. Thanks so much. I really appreciate the time. Kapano Marko is portfolio manager for multi-asset at Marzi Asset Management, and Kingsley Williams is the chief investment
Complex legal process. Sure. Okay, so fund managers, and we've been talking about whether we should keep them, whether we should buy the index. I mean, should we pay them? I mean, do they actually earn what they get paid, if you see what I mean? Are they worth
That attracts money. And so that's what bigger fund managers do. And I think it's quite cynical where they'll actually try lots of different things. And then when they have a bad fund, then they often merge the two together. So it's the bad fund with an
earning irrespective of the fact that the money is going down and the investors are losing money. The fund managers are being paid. They continue to get paid. Do they do a good job? How do you even start? So it's quite a difficult thing to measure. And so,
etc. But unfortunately, when we look at the information, the studies that are measuring how our fund managers perform relative to where they are. So, you know, if you're in the Western Cape managing money in the Western Cape, They're earning one and a half of
that are actually doing a decent job because if we understand that they're getting paid to be risk managers, then that's the mandate. We're not actually putting in the horse race against the index. Then, yes, let's pay them. Do their fees, should their fees be
So it's worth paying attention to because perhaps there are a bunch of fund managers out there that are not earning their salaries and that are earning fees from us that potentially we could redirect elsewhere. When business cards were still a thing, lots of
don't have the rich residents of Jobek oversubscribing and concentrating the 11% of residents in the fund to themselves. And in that way, we are able to then do, for example, I was taken to West Berry not long ago. There is a facility there which used to
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